Essentially, the story is that some care homes may have spent a portion of their budgets on procuring ‘sex workers’ for their charges. That’s it. Do you have a problem with that? If you said ‘yes’, you’re an idiot.
If you’re a prostitute, I’m sure the disabled community makes up a very small part of your clientèle; if you’re disabled, it’s up to you what you want or don’t want, but you should be given the chance to make the choice. You – YOU WHO READS THIS AND EVERY OTHER STUPID ARTICLE IN THE PAPER – are neither. It’s none of your business; it’s not your problem; shut up and go away.
The only thing older than prostitution is disability. This happens in every other country – first world, third world – in the world. Only here, in Great Britain, could we make an issue out of it.
‘I want a world where disabled people are valid sexual partners’
Recent reports that a care home procured sex workers for its disabled residents and new film The Sessions have put disability and sex in the spotlight. But is the focus on prostitution helpful?
Prostitution should not be encouraged. These women lead sad lives and support the drugs industry. The govt. would to paying to support the drugs industry and trafficing of east european sex slaves.
Right. Let’s choke the drugs industry by cutting out hookers.
This east European ‘sex slaves’ myth is pure propaganda.
I don’t have any problem at all with sexual surrogacy. In some ways it’s pretty much the opposite of men paying money for the right to a half hour of morally solipsistic play with someone else’s body…reliving the tent-pitching delusion that they’re actually entitled to use other people purely as ends, and that that their ability to pay is the basis of that right.
I lost you at ‘solipsistic’ you terrible bore. Seriously – fuck you and whatever tent-pitching delusion you may have.
how about we just give disabled people their money to live on, accept that at that point it’s actually theirs, and keep our damn moralising and holier than thou attitude out of other peoples business ?
– Paying for sex is hardly “intimacy” – something that I hope all people with disabilities have in their life. The emphasis on sex is just sad.
Nobody, except you and the hundreds of mouth-foaming commentors, is mistaking intimacy with sex. This doesn’t happen in real life – why should you be so blind to it? Perhaps if you were disabled you might understand a little better.
@silentstar101 – A long time ago or maybe once upon a time – the Samaritans were plagued by hundreds of calls from men seeking sexual gratification via the phone. This was thought to prevent the actively suicidal from getting through so the Brenda system was established.
Men needing that kind of satisfaction were encouraged to ask for “Brenda” who was a woman trained to try and engage with them and to talk about their underlying problems.
The outcome was that in some cases the woman volunteer would speak to the man while he endeavoured to come. A wel- to-do elderly BBC employee of my acquaintance regularly undertook this duty long after the Brenda system was scrapped.
I think the point I’m making in a round about way is that maybe money doesn’t need to change hands. It could be a voluntary service like any other with volunteers receiving appropriate CRB checks and training in sex therapy?
Brilliant. Re-proud to be British.
@TrueBrit1066 – Everyone has the right to enjoy sex in some way,
do you agree that the NHS should provide free viagra for all? Patients with erectile dysfunction have a problem that prevents them enjoying sex.
Slightly uneasy about this: what’s the difference between a businessman who’s too busy to bother with seduction using a prostitute, someone who’s too lazy or drunk, and someone who’s too disabled?
@000a000 – difference is that in the former two cases it involves a “subjective moral fault”, whereas disability is not a moral failing. They can’t help it, they didn’t choose to be disabled, nor did they do anything bad which made them disabled. Whatever you may feel about the sex service thing, it is wrong to put disabled people into the same category as greedy capitalists and the lumpen or borderline criminal elements.
Meh. You’ve over-thought this, so fuck you.
It’s sad that some people never get to have sex. Men like to romanticise prostitution, but it’s a f….ing terrible thing. If I had a disabled son, who was desperate for sex, I’d be telling him that it’s so wrong to buy a woman.
Really? If it was pay for it or never have it?
@lostalex77 – Why is the vagina or penis considered such a SACRED body part? it’s just another body part
Incorrect. Your face is not the same as your vagina. My toe is not the same as my penis.
‘my toe is not the same as my penis’ – you are the bigger wanker. i hope you suffer.
I dont give a damn whether is legal or not, as long both parts have an agreement.
You can’t argue with that.
I’m sure there’s a pretty penny to be made out there to make ‘niche porn’? Perhaps that could fund this er… enterprise?
@lostalex77 – No, some people are advocating that the government pay for it.
Taxpayers don’t pay for anything but taxes.
It ceased being your money when it left your account… just as it does when you buy a car. You don’t get a say in whether the car salesman hires a prostitute either.
This is too stupid for comment.
@kwenchin – Must be cosy up there, surveying the perfect world. Talk to a 65 year old single mother, looking after her 18 stone 40 year old son. He has a mental age of about 2, and hasn’t learnt how to masturbate. Once a month a sex worker provides him with hand relief and his mother with a calm household for a while. Whilst this is an imagined scenario, it’s one that exists in similar forms, far more often than anyone would like. Disability is not merely physical, and the relief offered by sex workers is not merely for the client.
That’s pretty grim, but it’s reality – READ IT
As a long-time inadvertant-celibate what I ache for is to touch my forehead against the forehead of someone who loves me and I can’t buy that. Using a sex worker would only serve to emphasise the comparative triviality of my loins.
“What disabled people need is full and equal rights. An inclusive society, which doesn’t create barriers.”
I’m not against anybody employing a sex worker but feel that it’s just a more complicated form of masturbation rather than sex.
It’s not new in the film world. 1998’s The Theory of Flight, starring Helena Bonham Carter as a woman with motor neurone disease, was excellent in it’s exploration of the subject.
I ache to say: Fuck you.
‘Revenge porn’ is the practice of disgruntled and bereft ex-boyfriends uploading intimate pictures of their recent rejecters on niche websites for the titillation of hairy-palmed basement-dwellers and the overly-curious. Or so I’m told.*
A group of women who have been victims of this practice have decided to launch a class-action law suit against one of these websites.
The debate here is relatively straightforward – don’t write anything down that you wouldn’t want your mother to read; don’t text pictures to your boyfriend of yourself squatting over a cucumber if you can’t accept the fact that, one way or another, it will eventually end up on the internet. It will. On the other hand, the site in question, texxxan.com, posted pictures of some of these heart-breaking Texan belles along with their full names and zip codes. That’s obviously not cool and clearly shouldn’t be allowed.
Anyway, in true internet fashion, both sides pushed their arguments to the limits of sanity; while the sweaty-backed middlemen were content just to sit back and enjoy the view…
* I only use these sites because I don’t understand how to back up my photos to iCloud.
New York Daily News
Revenge porn? Women sue website charging X-rated pics of them were uploaded on site and rated without their knowledge
More than two dozen women have joined a class-action lawsuit against Texxxan.com saying intimate photos of them were uploaded by slimy ex-beaus.
Carol Kuruvilla / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
SpiderHeMan13 hours ago
What are these girls crying about? There is nothing on this website that they are not flaunting in the street every day to the same amount of traffic. You wanna get sued? Try getting these girls to actually WEAR some clothes for a change.
Uh oh, the ‘asking for it’ argument rears its head…
Spewitup, 21 hours ago
Look at these chicks, all painted up and pretty for the camera. What sort of girls send nude pictures to guys after only a few months? This sort…(I’d be surprised if they haven’t put pictures up on the net themselves) oh, but I guess that’s not the point is it.
Sort of like girls who wear their boobs out and complain about old men looking. You’re an idiot if you trust a guy who “coaxes” you into sending photos, perhaps you didn’t need much coaxing.
And there it is again. Sounds stupid at the best of times, but in this context, it’s totally idiotic.
Rush Lemming, 5 hours ago
And we hear from the caveman contingency. Dope.
This summer, from the producers of the Bourne Supremacy… The Caveman Contingency. Dope.
bk1121122 hours ago
So you send an intimate pic to a significant other and it’s fair game for the world? That’s weak. The ladies had bad judgment in picking jerks for the role.
But the gentlemen had good judgement in jerking pics! Zing! AHAHAHAHA!
Coffeetweaker, 22 hours ago
This web-site is nothing more than a modern scarlet letter, attempting to control women by shaming them for their bodies. I will ever give naked pics to anyone ever again.
The misogyny here is palpable. The commenters here certainly don’t know these women personally but appear to be projecting their cuckolded rage onto them. In my opinion this situation should be included under “hate crime” legislation if it isn’t already, as it involves an aggressor hatefully trying to humiliate someone based on their biological gender. Additionally, it may incite violence against the victims. If someone is considered a “slut,” then they are no longer a “nice girl” and lose “male-protection.” Predators are then socially free to do whatever they want to them, as they obviously “asked for it.” Dead prostitute jokes have a grain of truth to them (nobody cares). The aggressors are essentially stripping these women of their humanity and indirectly endangering them. Our society disgusts me.
Hey, have you heard the one about the dead prostitute? No… neither have I.
Jerk Face, 1 day ago
www.texxxan.com you say? Damn being on my work computer…This is great publicity for that site, and I’ll be sure to check it out later….silly girls
TheChris, 2 days ago
Maybe it’s just nit-picking – but – pictures are not porn….and they’re not x-rated unless there’s somebody else in the picture…..
You can see a cat in the background of one of them – does that count?
Not a member yet, 2 days ago
32years old…Your more dumb then the girls.
Noo Yoka, 2 days ago
Each of the victims needs to visit a copyright lawyer and copyright there images. They can charge 1 million each for each “authorized view” then send their ex’s an invoice for the viewings. Once the bill collectors get involved, the boyfriends will commit suicide.
Idiotic on multiple levels.
MarcDonato, 2 days ago
See? That’s why you have to make sure that you have an Ace in the hole, as they say….my wife’ll NEVER put anything of me up on the web because I have a few of HER tucked away in a secret safety deposit box! Gotta cover your bases!
That’s… that’s something.
‘Revenge porn’ is about degrading women sexually and professionally
What does it say about society that websites where angry men shame their ex-lovers are thriving?
– Jill Filipovic, The Guardian
OlympicSquashNow, 29 January 2013 4:49pm
it sounds like an interesting idea in some cases – revenge comes in many forms after all, often best served cold. Women also have very nasty ways of exacting revenge
I feel this person may have interests beyond squash.
I don’t know if Brett Favre or Anthony Weiner sending images of their genetalia counts as “sexting” or sexual harassment, but it certainly turned out to be a problem for them.
pimpmasterkdogg, 28 January 2013 10:57pm
Don’t give your kids a name that is easy to Google, and if someone you know in real life is harassing you over the internet, get the police involved.
That’s a good point – I’ll name my first-born Justin Bieber.
djjdd, 28 January 2013 11:03pm
periods (menstruation for non-UK persons), painful and lethal childbirth, the minute we garner the energy and coldness to do it to them, it will cease to exist…
Why we are not protecting children? why we don’t care that first ‘sexy’ images 10& 11 year old girls see are hard core porn? this is overwhelming how easy is free access to pornography! Is it really what we want for the children?
Interesting that someone’s mind instantly leaps from ex-girlfriend revenge porn to images of 10- and 11-year-olds.
ConorSean, 29 January 2013 12:53am
Not exactly scientific but I found this after at the top of the list after one google search:
It comes with the instructions:
Is your ex-bloke LAZY, USELESS or just a complete BASTARD?
Of course you want TO GET EVEN and get one up on him.
Register with us by CLICKING HERE.
Upload his photo or video in any format, tell us his name, just add a few words to SLAG him off and we’ll get him seen acrooss the whole internet YES YES YES
So don’t delay, get your own back, and give us girls something to laugh at!
Porn is out of control in the UK. Why are all those channels available on Freeview, when so many children have TVs and mobile phones?
It was a much healthier situation in the 70s and 80s, where you were rightly made to feel a bit guilty and dirty if you wanted porn.
bobbymac1956, 29 January 2013 4:36pm
The rise of internet porn has gone hand in hand with the demise of home shopping catalogues and Elastoplast coloured foundation garments modelled by peoples aunties .Ah simpler times.
Simpler times, good times.
You know when you see those pictures of cats in your Facebook news feed? You know the ones. The ones where the cat is sleeping next to a log fire or posing in an adorable human-like way, like Tiger thinks he’s a real person. And you go ‘Ahhhhhh’. You big softy, you.
Well not cat-hater Gareth Morgan. New Zealander Morgan has set up a website displaying teeny weeny kittens with devil horns, and encouraging his countrymen to make their current pussy their last. Perhaps unsurprisingly, this was a sensitive subject on the nation’s forums.
New Zealand cat lovers pounce on eradication campaign
Stolly 22 January 2013 11:04am
Cats are bastards, everyone knows that!
muscleguy 22 January 2013 12:17pm
@1789wasAgoodYear – More than plans, NZ is the world expert country on the eradication of rats from defined areas.
[Continues discussing the eradication of rats until…]
Way back at the end of ’87 between graduating BSc (hons) and getting confirmation of my PhD place and funding I considered applying for a job developing an oral contraceptive for possums. I understand they are still working on it and will likely continue until they succeed.
a) Good for you. I’m glad you shared your academic career.
b) Wow. Oral contraceptions for possums. Just wow.
ThomasLion 22 January 2013
My garden is treated as a hunting ground, bedroom, recreation area and latrine on a daily basis by at least three neighbourhood cats.
I like having wild birds in my garden – however, these have virtually disappeared over the past few years as the number of cats has increased. I do not like having cat shit in my vegetable patch – yet that’s what I get with disgusting regularity.
If anyone allowed their dog to roam free in other people’s gardens, defaecating and killing wildlife, they would rightly be condemned. It seems cats are only thought of differently because cat owners are more selfish and thoughtless than dog owners.
People argue that to roam and hunt is “in cats’ nature”. But cats have been selectively bred, so they are not “natural” at all. They are, in practice, man-made – created by the will or negligence of people – and yet they kill millions of wild animals each year.
Often, they kill in a way which causes immense suffering to their victim. Not only is allowing cats to roam and hunt environmentally unsound, and deeply antisocial to your neighbours, it is profoundly cruel. Most cat owners call themselves animal lovers, and consequently would not themselves torture a bird, mouse or frog to death. To let your cat out, knowing that it will do just that, is as morally repugnant as doing it yourself.
The solution is easy: confine your cat. If you cannot or will not do that, then at least train your cat not to hunt (try a water pistol each time it brings home a “gift” – the suffering caused by punishing your cat is insignificant compared to the suffering the cat causes to wildlife). If you believe you cannot or will not do that either you are not responsible enough to keep a cat.
Everything was leading up to the water pistol. Later in the chain, a user suggests using a weak orange squash mix.
More from the ironically named Thomaslion:
@Martin Richards –
Really your arguments are very inconsistent. If you’re concerned about animals shitting outside then I’d hate to know what you think of birds.
Pay attention. I am not concerned about shit in general. I am concerned about cat shit in my garden.
This is because it’s a much bigger and more obvious problem than any other kind of shit, it’s my garden (my lawn, my herbs and vegetables), and it’s easily preventable, by cat owners simply taking a bit of civilised responsibility for the creatures they choose to keep.
You think those cats are bad? I was talking to a friend who was housesitting for a couple of days.
He’s there, discussing what needs doing with the homeowners, when the house cat walks in.
‘What’s the cat’s name?’ My friend asks.
‘TC’ comes the reply.
‘As in Top Cat?’
‘No, as in Total C*nt.’
‘Oh, why?’ My friend, slightly taken aback.
‘Because he’s a total c*nt’
TheRoach 22 January 2013
Would you let your dog roam around, breeding indiscriminately and killing wildlife? I suggest not.
sounds like the upper classes… can we just neuter them and not replace them when they die instead?
The moral relativism of a Guardian poster.
fotorabia23 22 January 2013
@greensox – One cat killed a whole species of native wren in the Sth Island..extinct..one cat..and every time you see a massacred bird or lizard..thats a forensic murder scene…thats all the science I need…here in Australia we have cat free zones…why oh why would we have that….
Fotoabia23, are you pitching the next series of CSI?
geoeeee 22 January 2013 2:51pm
@ALY81 – Why should they have to get a cover for their sandpit? Isnt it reasonable to expect that uncovered sandpits in people’s back gardens shouldnt be covered in shit by a creature that lives next door whose sole purpose in life is to pander to the sentimentality of its owner?
Owning a cat or a dog in a city is just about the most antisocial thing anyone can do.
I can think of more antisocial things. Say a cat owner re-enacting their cat’s less desirable activities and leaving ‘presents’ in their neighbour’s yard.
5432Hun – 22 January 2013
Cats are great.
Environmentalists are annoying.
Chivanova 22 January 2013 11:22am
Ignorant people are more annoying that environmentalists.
Environmentalists should be made to wear bells round their necks so we can hear them coming and avoid them.
‘Cats should be banished from New Zealand’ says campaigner who fears for future of native birds
– Unnamed Daily Mail Reporter
– Liz, London, United Kingdom, 22/1/2013 17:52
Totally agree, cats in this country are reckoned to kill up to 4million birds a year as well as other wild animals Cat owners should at least be forced to fit a bell round the neck of these killing machines, so they can be heard prowling around and to give birds a chance of escape.
– Jim, Carlisle, 22/1/2013 17:28
Yeah and I wonder how many birds humanity is responsible for killing each year – a lot more I bet. As for cats being ‘killing machines’ – there is no bigger killing machine than the one that you see in the mirror every day.
Is Liz the terminator, Jim?
– Lisa R, NY, United States, 22/1/2013 18:10
No, as most responsible cat owners know and as the RSPCA / ASPCA / Humane society recommends, cats should be kept indoors or supervised outdoors on leash or in an outdoor enclosed pen. Period. Problem solved. It’s all of the leftist cat activism people who assume cats should run free outdoors, regardless of the many hazards they face (and havoc they wrought).
Responsible, cat, leash and enclosed pen, all used in the same sentence.
Also, leftist cat activism?
For reasons best known to themselves, the Daily Mail editorship decided to publish a piece discussing the intricacies of GQ magazine’s newly-pressed ‘World’s Sexiest Women’ poll. The issue is not so much the inherent problems of conceiving such a list in the first place, but the fact that they included sub-categories such as ‘Sexiest Indian’, ‘Sexiest Italian’, and ‘Sexiest Pregnant Sri Lankan’.
Professor Ruth C. White – who must be a hit at parties – was wheeled out to say: ‘… By calling out certain women’s ethnicity and not others, what they’re implying is that these women are not beautiful simply because they’re beautiful; they’re only attractive within the context of their own ethnicity.’ You don’t get this on the football blogs.
But what did the Mail commentariat make of this fake outrage over a nothing news story? Let’s find out…
GQ in race row over Sexiest Women List which includes ‘Hottest Indian Chick’, ‘Hottest Chinese Chick’ and ‘Hottest Pregnant Sri Lankan’
If you’re a Sri Lankan, you’re a Sri Lankan. If you’re white, you’re white. It’s not racism it’s facts.
– Me, Reading, United Kingdom, 21/1/2013 15:54
I’m thinking of painting my living room. I can’t decide whether to do it white, off-white, or Sri Lankan. Do you see the problem now?
What about me??? Surely I should have been named in the hottest English, mum of 2, under 30… in the sub text of having a dog with a bad haircut and a cat who’s scared of fish!!! Where’s my mention????
– ellajane, Wilmslow, United Kingdom, 21/1/2013 15:50
I think there’s a reason why this category isn’t included – and a reason why newsagents around the country aren’t crowded with men scrambling for the top shelf to get their hands on the latest edition of ‘Self-consciously Kooky Pet-Loving Mums Under 30!!!???!!’. Phwoar!!?!!
So it’s ok to have The Union of Black Police Officers and clubs and gyms only for women…but not this? I can’t understand that at all…
– Unistudent, Manchester, 21/1/2013 15:43
That’s why you’re at ‘uni’ in Manchester.
Beyonce is like a Duck! her butt is shapeless, just big..
– abchopeskeepmegoing, Wales, 21/1/2013 15:14
In the context of bottoms, big is a shape.
Like the MOBO awards, they have to include these categories to make sure that non-whites win some prizes too.
– Aelfred Wantage UKIP, Oxon, United Kingdom, 21/1/2013 15:12
Username. I bet he spends his weekends in armour, recreating things.
If your beautiful which all of these women are then there just beautiful does it matter where there from.
– Mrs Mac, London, United Kingdom, 21/1/2013 14:50
They should include this sentence as a question in the Eleven Plus exam – ‘Correct the mistakes (5 Points)’. If you can’t, to the workhouse with you.
What people don’t want to ‘know’ is that 45+ man does not care about race.
– hormar, Wembley, United Kingdom, 21/1/2013 14:50
Nobody wants to know that. That’s why all your colleagues change the subject when you mention you spent your last holiday in Thailand.
section for Hottest Red Head…………. might even buy the magazine, just goes to show that we are all different………
– Martin-S-, Nr. Leicetser, 21/1/2013 13:20
If I were a red-headed female, I’d steer clear of Nr. Leicetser.
We’re all pink inside !
– Angus, Bristol, United Kingdom, 21/1/2013 13:19
This sounds creepy at the best of times, but in this context…. No.
Bit like Black music awards or gay man uk isn’t it?
– fumbler, Leeds, England, 21/1/2013 13:18
Hottest Pregnant Sri Lankan Chick – that’s so specific that only MIA could win really LOL.
– Sarah, London, United Kingdom, 21/1/2013 13:16
AHAHA, I hadn’t realised! Thanks for pointing that out – what wags these GQers are.
The Gift was released in 2000 so was not released in the 21st century.
– The Manxman, Douglas, Isle Of Man, 21/1/2013 13:15
To know that, to care enough to point out that – based on a spurious technicality – somebody has made a mistake, and then to have the energy left to hammer out a comment about it – commendable.
Notice how these so-called ‘critics’ are allowed to be anonymous. Obviously not people whose judgment has stood any test. Probably petty-priests of the race industry, looking for new business.
– Bob the Welder, London, United Kingdom, 21/1/2013 12:50
Bob the Welder – welding accountability to GQ sub-editors and petty-priests everywhere.
According to this paper Beyonce is black. Obama is the first black president so therefore Beyonce is black.
– Mack, London, 21/1/2013 12:36
We could have an English rose competition!
– Odette, Acountryfullofimmigrants, 21/1/2013 12:15
We could, but it’d be hosted by Stephen Fry and sponsored by Twinings. And Kiera Knightley would win every year. Is it worth the bother?
Another left-wing storm in a D-cup……
– Gerry Smith, London, United Kingdom, 21/1/2013 12:02
Nice. I’m going to steal that.
Sorry the term racist is constantly misused, its only racist when its used in a derogatory way not when celebration the beauty of different races. If anything it could classed as a tacky but not racist.
– JohnnyBananas, UK, 21/1/2013 11:39
Look forward to seeing the contribution for fittest repressed afgani tribes woman.
– Chris, Braintree, United Kingdom, 21/1/2013 11:33
Here you go Chris: