Essentially, the story is that some care homes may have spent a portion of their budgets on procuring ‘sex workers’ for their charges. That’s it. Do you have a problem with that? If you said ‘yes’, you’re an idiot.
If you’re a prostitute, I’m sure the disabled community makes up a very small part of your clientèle; if you’re disabled, it’s up to you what you want or don’t want, but you should be given the chance to make the choice. You – YOU WHO READS THIS AND EVERY OTHER STUPID ARTICLE IN THE PAPER – are neither. It’s none of your business; it’s not your problem; shut up and go away.
The only thing older than prostitution is disability. This happens in every other country – first world, third world – in the world. Only here, in Great Britain, could we make an issue out of it.
‘I want a world where disabled people are valid sexual partners’
Recent reports that a care home procured sex workers for its disabled residents and new film The Sessions have put disability and sex in the spotlight. But is the focus on prostitution helpful?
Prostitution should not be encouraged. These women lead sad lives and support the drugs industry. The govt. would to paying to support the drugs industry and trafficing of east european sex slaves.
Right. Let’s choke the drugs industry by cutting out hookers.
This east European ‘sex slaves’ myth is pure propaganda.
I don’t have any problem at all with sexual surrogacy. In some ways it’s pretty much the opposite of men paying money for the right to a half hour of morally solipsistic play with someone else’s body…reliving the tent-pitching delusion that they’re actually entitled to use other people purely as ends, and that that their ability to pay is the basis of that right.
I lost you at ‘solipsistic’ you terrible bore. Seriously – fuck you and whatever tent-pitching delusion you may have.
how about we just give disabled people their money to live on, accept that at that point it’s actually theirs, and keep our damn moralising and holier than thou attitude out of other peoples business ?
– Paying for sex is hardly “intimacy” – something that I hope all people with disabilities have in their life. The emphasis on sex is just sad.
Nobody, except you and the hundreds of mouth-foaming commentors, is mistaking intimacy with sex. This doesn’t happen in real life – why should you be so blind to it? Perhaps if you were disabled you might understand a little better.
@silentstar101 – A long time ago or maybe once upon a time – the Samaritans were plagued by hundreds of calls from men seeking sexual gratification via the phone. This was thought to prevent the actively suicidal from getting through so the Brenda system was established.
Men needing that kind of satisfaction were encouraged to ask for “Brenda” who was a woman trained to try and engage with them and to talk about their underlying problems.
The outcome was that in some cases the woman volunteer would speak to the man while he endeavoured to come. A wel- to-do elderly BBC employee of my acquaintance regularly undertook this duty long after the Brenda system was scrapped.
I think the point I’m making in a round about way is that maybe money doesn’t need to change hands. It could be a voluntary service like any other with volunteers receiving appropriate CRB checks and training in sex therapy?
Brilliant. Re-proud to be British.
@TrueBrit1066 – Everyone has the right to enjoy sex in some way,
do you agree that the NHS should provide free viagra for all? Patients with erectile dysfunction have a problem that prevents them enjoying sex.
Slightly uneasy about this: what’s the difference between a businessman who’s too busy to bother with seduction using a prostitute, someone who’s too lazy or drunk, and someone who’s too disabled?
@000a000 – difference is that in the former two cases it involves a “subjective moral fault”, whereas disability is not a moral failing. They can’t help it, they didn’t choose to be disabled, nor did they do anything bad which made them disabled. Whatever you may feel about the sex service thing, it is wrong to put disabled people into the same category as greedy capitalists and the lumpen or borderline criminal elements.
Meh. You’ve over-thought this, so fuck you.
It’s sad that some people never get to have sex. Men like to romanticise prostitution, but it’s a f….ing terrible thing. If I had a disabled son, who was desperate for sex, I’d be telling him that it’s so wrong to buy a woman.
Really? If it was pay for it or never have it?
@lostalex77 – Why is the vagina or penis considered such a SACRED body part? it’s just another body part
Incorrect. Your face is not the same as your vagina. My toe is not the same as my penis.
‘my toe is not the same as my penis’ – you are the bigger wanker. i hope you suffer.
I dont give a damn whether is legal or not, as long both parts have an agreement.
You can’t argue with that.
I’m sure there’s a pretty penny to be made out there to make ‘niche porn’? Perhaps that could fund this er… enterprise?
@lostalex77 – No, some people are advocating that the government pay for it.
Taxpayers don’t pay for anything but taxes.
It ceased being your money when it left your account… just as it does when you buy a car. You don’t get a say in whether the car salesman hires a prostitute either.
This is too stupid for comment.
@kwenchin – Must be cosy up there, surveying the perfect world. Talk to a 65 year old single mother, looking after her 18 stone 40 year old son. He has a mental age of about 2, and hasn’t learnt how to masturbate. Once a month a sex worker provides him with hand relief and his mother with a calm household for a while. Whilst this is an imagined scenario, it’s one that exists in similar forms, far more often than anyone would like. Disability is not merely physical, and the relief offered by sex workers is not merely for the client.
That’s pretty grim, but it’s reality – READ IT
As a long-time inadvertant-celibate what I ache for is to touch my forehead against the forehead of someone who loves me and I can’t buy that. Using a sex worker would only serve to emphasise the comparative triviality of my loins.
“What disabled people need is full and equal rights. An inclusive society, which doesn’t create barriers.”
I’m not against anybody employing a sex worker but feel that it’s just a more complicated form of masturbation rather than sex.
It’s not new in the film world. 1998’s The Theory of Flight, starring Helena Bonham Carter as a woman with motor neurone disease, was excellent in it’s exploration of the subject.
I ache to say: Fuck you.
Sometimes there are nuggets of troll-like gold amid sensible, reasonable commentary.
They don’t quite justify their own post, but boy, you want to use them.
With that in mind, we’ve eaten our fibre to compile some of the past week’s best posts that didn’t quite make through the knotty bowels of Comment is Freed.
Lunatic debate rages over The Falkland Islands, there is military ranking armpits and even a pill that can cure divorce.
Read on, o’ lonely troll.
‘No such thing as Falkland islanders’, says Argentine foreign minister
This story, and the one immediately below, relate to Argentinian foreign minister Hector Timerman’s recent visit to the UK. During this visit, he claimed there is ‘no such thing as a Falkland islander’. Needless to say, the forums were ablaze with indignation.
Except this poster:
Do not, repeat, do not incite the ire of winsome warrior queen Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner [Argentine president]. She is bold, brilliant, beautiful…and belligerent. You have been warned.
Haha … what?
However, the majority did not seemed too cowed by the warrior queen:
Time to boycott Argie goods everybody.
Look out of the country of origin especially in fruit.
Do they actually make anything?
Corn Beef. And Lloyd Webber wrote a lovely musical about one of their Dictators wives.
Okay, the musical was awful. If I chuck the record away can I keep the corn beef?
if I were a falkland islander, i’d be buying guns and ammo by the truck load.
And some corned beef.
As much as I love this Sceptred Isle and the plight of the Falklanders concerns me, I know I’m not alone among the DT’s male commentators in wondering what de Kirchner’s like in the sack. Probably ain’t a bad shag, as it happens.
Straight from the Alan Partridge playbook of pulling.
UK ‘disappointed’ as Argentina turns down talks over Falklands
by Julian Borger and agencies, The Guardian
The Malvinas belong to the democratically elected sovereign state of Argentina – end of story. The ‘aliens’ who are currently decamped on the island should be forcibly repatriated to the UK if they wish to continue living under British rule. To deprive Argentina of their rightful claims to Sovereignty over the Malvinas is an insult to natural justice.
‘Forcibly repatriated’ used in a most un-Guardian like manner.
The globalist Nazis pulling the strings in Holyrood are the same as the puppet masters in Argentina.
‘Globalist’ gives that extra twist of lizard people.
[In response to an Argentinian poster supporting the islanders’ right to self-determination…]
@Nicolas2013 – Nice comment which proves my point: ordinary Argentinians are good people.
Really? They’re not all massive shits? No…
There’s a hell of a lot of Thatcherites on this thread! Geographically, if it should be a part of any country, it is Argentina, no question about it. It’s not the right of Falklanders as they are the colonialists who are able to live there because the UK lays claim to the islands. That goes entirely against reason. I would give them back to Argentina in the blink of an eye.
Just because a country occupies land, it doesn’t make it justified that they should rule it. If you think it does, you inadvertantly support Adolf Hitler.
I fully welcome any arguments against this.
Bring it, you de-facto Nazis!
What follows are several comments questioning the historical accuracy of Starfield’s post, before…
@tokaido – Listen, I take back what I said as you’re right with saying that it didn’t actually belong to Argentina. My apologies to everyone for thinking something that was not correct.
And I’m being serious here. I admit my mistake.
Ouch! Burnt by Wikipedia.
It isn’t those who oppose gay marriage who are the bigots – it is the liberals who demonise them
BY Stephen Glover, The Mail
This week MP’s voted to bring gay marriage into law. Some people, sadly, were not cool with that:
If Tony Blair’s great SIN is the Iraq war. Then David Cameron has committed a greater SIN by force feeding this to the British public. He will never be forgiven.
Gay marriage is clearly worse than leading your country to war on back-of-a-fag-packet intelligence for one poster.
Sometimes, a nation goes so far off the moral track that it takes an Augusto Pinochet to get it back on the rails again. Now, I am not condoning some kind of militaristic retaliation. What I am saying is we need a LEADER!!! And the tepid, assinine and moribund bunch of useless politicians who think they know better, currently in Parliament, need their BACKSIDES kicking!!
Maybe nonpc has forgotten that 2279 people lost their lives under Pinochet and a further 31,947 were tortured.
Anon_Wales, Wales, United Kingdom
Liberalism and socialism – the two death knells for Britain today. The plan for the utter destruction of our country is almost complete.
The EU lizard people, in co-operation with the masonic Hungarian-afro-carribean arm of the BBC, have almost achieved their sinister end-game! Nurse, the meds!!
My chemical romance: can medicine cure divorce?
by Will Store, The Guardian
As ever, the reductionists miss the point, not only of the subject, but of life itself.
We humans experience life, and so to have meaning it has to be life as it is, not life as drugs can make us think and feel it is; that’s an evasion. You might as well hire a hypnotist.
Most people have seen the Matrix. Most people would, I think, choose the red pill. We instinctively understand that although reality can feel at times feel meaningless, it is the only place we may one day experience meaning.
Ah, reduct yourself.
Aside from pseudo-intellectual gobbledegook, there was raw emotion in some of the comments…
Can medicine cure divorce? I dunno. Can it cure the rage, grief, shattering disappointment, bitterness and disillusionment caused by infidelity?
Can medicine cure divorce?
Only if they’ve discovered an antidote to Cheating Bitch.
(Perhaps the mods will know…? xxx)
You can practically feel the hatred seeping through the monitor.
Can Googling be racist? A Harvard study has found racial bias in Google searches. Yet it’s not the search engine but our own prejudice that’s to blame
by Arwa Mahdawi, The Guardian
Descartes didn’t quite say “Bullshitto ergo sum” either. I’m not on Google, yet I seem to exist all the same.
I call bullshitto.
In a reversal of the common prefix ‘Im not racist but…’ This year I shall start to begin my sentences with the phrase ‘I am racist and….’
… a total tool.’
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Whatever the above post was, it must have been a sweet comment to get the following response…
My armpit tells me that you are a colonel.
Haha. And my groin tells me you’re the duke.
Saturday Essay: Run your family like a business
By BRUCE FEILER, The Wall Street Journal
Jerry Stevens Wrote:
The great thing about running your family like a business is that when money is tight, you can just lay off a couple of kids.
This weekend saw the shock exit of Pamela Anderson in ITV’s Dancing on Ice, hot tub antics in Celebrity Big Brother (five), the return of Prime Minister Birgitte Nyborg in Borgen (BBC4) and debate over whether actor Matthew Macfadyen is animal, mineral or vegetable in BBC’s Ripper Street.
Something for all the familiy then, but what did the the nation’s posters make of it all?
Pamela Anderson first to leave ‘Dancing on Ice’.
— Frances Taylor, Digital Spy
theshadow — January 7th 2013 at 12:34am
Keith Chegwin slayed Pamela Anderson……never thought I’d write those words
Pamela Anderson is out (in more ways than one): Baywatch star voted off Dancing on Ice… but was her costume fail to blame for stumble in skate-off?
— Emily Sheridan, The Mail
– Jackie, London, United Kingdom, 6/1/2013 23:26
She is way too old and leathery to be carrying on like a teenager. How sad.
There’s a German word I’m looking for: schaden something.
Pamela should have got abreast of the situation and had a more suitable dress for dancing but as it happened she made a bit of a boob of it.
I see what you’ve done there.
Is this news because it involves b**bs? Sometimes this line betwern dm [Daily Mail] and fhm is rather unclear
To be fair, FHM’s only offensive to half the world’s population.
Dancing on Ice wasn’t the only outlet for that kind of comment this weekend. Celebrity Big Brother was back and The Sun was out in force with stories bearing titles you’d expect from less reputable sites.
Lacey’s the hot tub hottie
— Christine Jennings, The Sun
[In reference to Lacey Banghard and what she may or may not have done]
she did,nt strip much i was expecting boobies so disappointed
this bird is gorgeous and ditsy = excellent!
Sadly, the next post was not the Crime Stoppers number.
All TEN housemates nominate Heidi and Spencer for eviction
— Christine Jennings, The Sun
i wont waste my time watching the rubbish , bring back the good films and more of em not this trash
According to Word, that’s 99 characters wasted.
I would not insult the TV by turning the program on.
The TV wouldn’t hold it against you
[Commenting on potential evictees Heidi Montag and Spencer Pratt.]
Typical brash americans.. the guy is just nasty and the wife seems about as intelligent as 2 planks!!
Yeah, those awful Americans. Always tarring everyone with the same brush — oh, wait.
‘Ripper Street’, ‘Celebrity Big Brother’: This week in TV
— Alex Fetcher, Digital Spy
Back on Digital Spy, poster nicluc had problems distinguishing Ripper Street star Matthew MacFadyen from the aforementioned planks of wood.
[…] Matthew MacFadyen is as wooden as ever, I find him unbelievable as a human being let alone a character.
What is nicluc’s criteria for a human being?
Nicluc then chides the Beeb production for…
It’s fairly sloppy work and needs more attention to detail (teddy bear featured last night was not invented until 1902), it is fairly enjoyable, but no Sherlock.
God, it’s like when Han Solo emerges from carbonate freezing in Return of the Jedi and his hair is shorter than when he was originally frozen. Spoiled the whole scene. Force my a**e.
Borgen: season two, episodes one and two
— Vicky Frost, The Guardian
To more cerebral fare and, following the finale of The Killing, Guardian readers didn’t have to wait long for their next meaty slab of Danish miserablism with the arrival of Borgen‘s second series.
I laughed, I gasped, I cried…My goodness that was marvellous!
Dour Danish political dramas, gag riots they are.
[…] Best title/line of the night: “In Brussels, no-one can hear you scream”! […]
David Cameron’s existentialist crisis nicely summed up.
In order to fill space and generate hits over the Christmas/New Year low season, The Guardian decided to publish a flashy ‘interactive’, which was essentially a list of the 100 best footballers currently playing around the world.
These lists are notoriously subjective and open to debate. Aside for the obvious number one, every other position is a question of opinion and preference. So, with the table laid, the port open, and the resentment gently simmering, we get stuck into a Christmas-sized helping of quality debate…
The 100 best footballers in the world – interactive
— Staff, The Guardian | Full ‘Interactive’
duckyduckduck, 21 December 2012 12:18 PM
What on Earth are you on about? “Click on the interactive.” Click on the interactive what?
Stop nounifying adjectives, you nitwits!
Stop verbifying nouns, you shitty!
When some readers reported problems viewing the ‘interactive’, The Guardian tech people announced that it was ‘viewable on anything more recent than IE8’…
Callanish, 20 December 2012 5:13 PM
[…] Thanks to the Guardian’s browser snobbery I can’t see any of the list. Next thing’ll be it’s exclusively accessible to people with fancy Apple iPads.
Getting quite frustrated with the Guardian for doing a hipster version of passive-aggressive – if you’re not with-it and cool enough, you can’t join us and play. FFS.
I don’t think you can come up with a term like ‘hipster version of passive-aggressive’ without having a massive chip on your shoulder. This person clearly has several – not fancy ones either. FFS.
“working on everything except internet explorer 8” means that *not* working on safari 6.02 running on os x 10.7.5 doesn’t count.
SonOfTheDesert, 20 December 2012 1:00 PM
You seem shocked that anyone would use IE8, the standard browser for the vast majority of public sector organisations in England and Wales.
Please, think of the public sector workers.
Honestly Guardian… can you do Fucking something about it? nobody seem to like this format, the quality of banter, adn the sharpness of the conversation has been hit badly
Yes, please do something – for the sharpness of Fucking the conversation!
And what a woefully designed page. Having to click the close button and no progress arrows. I couldn’t bear it after 90.
Anyway, on to the football:
jkhd, 23 December 2012 12:30 PM
This list is fucking shit.
laffatron 20 December 2012 9:04 PMLink to this comment
That is why you are writing stupid comments on the guardian website and not plying your trade in the managerial circuit.
This is good; I wish more people thought this way.
Marek Hamsik has tiny nipples
No idea. This wasn’t even in response to anything.
john terry. my arse!
I like how the Guardian group of writers collectively thought their opinion means so much to compile a list in the first place.
Pfft, yeah, idiots. Not like they get paid, daily, to write their opinions about trivial shit like football.
Try Guardian Soulmates.
Consider yourself riquelled.
Haven’t read this, have no interest in it or association football. But couldn’t help myself from pointing out that life is quite fun and can be enjoyed to the full without any football in it.
By… by commenting on articles you haven’t read about association football? Hallelujah!
wow 2 french on 60 guys, that’s really the weakest french generation since … i don’t know perhaps the one who cyprius in 1987.
Yeah, that was a hell of a cypriusing.
Can’t think of the last time I saw Eto’o play. Is he still top quality or just a big fish in a relatively small, racist pond?
I have a dream that my four little tadpoles will one day live in a pond where they are judged not by the colour of their skin but by the content of their character.
go home your drunk gardian :cesc36,roony31,rooben66 and osca37,mata32,suarez21 ???!!
You appear to have missed the ones with two X chromosomes.
Yes, because there’s at least one female footballer who legitimately deserves to be on this list. Right on Sister Dan!
Today the UK woke up to news David Cameron plans to stay on as the British prime minister until 2020.
Can ‘call me Dave’ Dave ride another Murdoch nag until squeezing out his ‘enormous agenda’? Will George Osbourne call time on the tax-haven that is 4-for-1 sausage rolls down Greggs? And is Nick Clegg now lonelier than a Christmas jumper in the January sale?
More impotently than all that, what is the measured reaction in the comment sections of our leading rags?
‘I will be the one, and the Conservatives will be the party, offering genuine change… Do you want to hand the keys back to the people who crashed the car?’
— Matthew d’Ancona, The Telegraph | Full article
Deluded fat-faced chuntering twit.
Choose UKIP. Ditch the EU, end immigration, you know it makes sense.
Not a fan, then?
… Just like that other belly crawling reptile, Blair, he’ll be calling in the favours from the banks and the foreign politicos…
[Post continues in this manner until…]
You’re so oily, D’Ancona, one can almost feel the grease coming up through the keyboard. And that’s a major part of he problem. Dozy Dave Cameron spends far too much time listening to heads-up-their-arse sycophants like you.
Sorry I think there is a miss print should it say 2015, but I don’t know if he will even make it ? unless he change’s, (1 Leave the EU (2 Stop giving aid to countries that are using the money for their space programme ,and for also buying new cars , and putting the money into there own pockets, (3 stop the immigrants coming in (4 Over turn all the rule’s and regulations that have been imposed on us by the EU (5 get rid of the backing for gay marriage (6 kick out of this country those immigrants that should not be here (7 get rid of Glegg, what a waste if time that man his, does he engage his brain before opening his mouth ? (8 don’t do a Thatcher ( this women is not for turning ) if it aint working, like the EU CHANGE IT.
Its YOU that’s crashing the car Dave.
David Cameron wants to be in Downing Street until 2020 to push through ‘enormous reform agenda’
— James Rush, The Mail | Full article
Cameron is worse than Tony Blair “he who speaks with two tongues”! If this egoist and his side kick Clegg gets in again we are all doomed! I would rather take my chances in the Congo!!
You really wouldn’t.
Never trust a man , with thin lips , my grannie used to say, How true nan . Rip
Have you checked for the number of the beast?
Do you want Cameron to remain PM until 2020?
— CIF, The Guardian | Full article
timthemonkey 06 January 2013 12:03 PM
No, and given his performance I have no reason to believe he will be. Calling him a heartless, incompetent clownshoe is an insult to humourous footwear
Forthestate 06 January 2013 11:15 AM
David Cameron says he wants to serve as prime minister for at least another seven years, overseeing radical reforms
He’d better watch himself. Expressing a desire like that can very easily get you branded a dictator by newspapers like the Guardian.
HeilCameron 06 January 2013 11:31 AM
That’s exactly what he is. A little dictator. If truth be known he probably wants a thousand year Reich.
David Cameron Wants To Stay As PM Until 2020, But Poll Says He’ll Be Out In 2015
— Ned Simons, Huffington Post | Full article
Hell is changing it’s location it will be right here in the u.k if conservatives stay in power so make sure we vote them out at the next election!
I didn’t know satan was from Berkshire.
Reaction over the RSPCA’s legal case against the Oxfordshire Heythrop Hunt continues — with some off-topic posts from both sides of the debate.
Our once great RSPCA is being destroyed by a militant tendency
— Charles Moore, The Telegraph | Full article
Surely they should be non political. When i see a millitant fox leading the SWP then maybe it is time to reverse the ban but until then we should surely just keep shooting them.
The Left – sneaky, underhand, undemocratic, vicious, demented to the point of insanity, divisive, self interested, bullying, fiscally ignorant, greedy, irresponsible… I could go on and on.
(Editor’s note: he does)
It is time that people are made to pay for their own choices. Local councils are robbed blind to pay for Left workers and ideas without any consultation or approval from the taxpayers.
Political parties, quangos, institutions are infiltrated and corrupted by Left activities – even our electoral system has been hacked and abused with only a few jail sentences and no public or legal apportion of blame on the instigators of this undemocratic behaviour.
The biggest lie and crime of all and doing the most damage to the country is the secret plan by Labour to flood Britain with unlimited immigration for purely party gain and to attack their opponents. This is destroying our country and as I and many others have said should be taken to court and the culprits made to pay for their betrayal and their evil work against the interests of the nation.
The Left are sick and evil and the enemy within.
The RSPCA is the tip of the iceberg.
Really had to laugh at the first lines on this article,’ treat lawers with respect’
I could prove nearly every aspect of our decent life has been detroyed by this group of things
hunting is banned and the rule of law seems to be observed in abeyance it’s not about politics
You are well named.
I love animals. They’re delicious.
The RSPCA and a cruel abuse of your generosity
— Quentin Letts, The Daily Mail | Full article
Is nothing sacred? You donate to the RSPCA to help animals. Not to help class war loonies to take their battle to the cabinet on an elected government
All of our charities are highly politicised and professionalised to spew out political dogma and to attack the public along marxist lines. Just examine the NSPPC and the Womens Aid adverts, sexist bigoted and downright criminal in their content. IT’S ABOUT TIME THIS GOVERNMENT TACKLED THE ABUSES THAT ARE PERPETRATED IN THE NAME OF CHARITY
The truth is out
What else would you expect from squirrel killer Letts?
A hunt chasing the wrong fox
— Editorial, The Independent | Full article
The Tories attempts to bring together legislature,executive and judiciary could not be any clearer than with fox hunting. The tories don’t like to prosecute…nobody else does. well done RSPCA
Why the RSPCA pursued a Heythrop Hunt prosecution
— Gavin Grant, The Guardian | Full article
It is probably best to steer clear of people who enjoy hunting, one thing most serial killers have in common is that they have a history of torturing and killing animals.
Domesic cats exterminate countless millions of birds and beasts every year.
How come there is no prgram to make the ownersip of these monsters illegal?
Your post isn’t really clear. Are you comparing cats with fox hunters?
Absolutely right for the RSPCA to pursue this, and successfully. Congratulations.
Yet another example of arrogant, upper class feral elitists who consider themselves above the law, which is for ‘the little people’.
Who are the real vermin here?
A nice fantasy – strip a couple of “toffs” naked, cover them in foxy smell, turn them loose into rural Oxfordshire, set the dogs on them and let them experience the thrill of the hunt from the other end. If the worst should happen, it is, we are told, a humane way to control the number of these pests in our countryside.
Yes… sigh… just a nice fantasy…
What an odd thing to fantasise about. Why do antis always want to hurt people?
CofE to allow gay bishops as long as they don’t do, er, whatever it is that they like to do to each otherPosted: January 5, 2013
This story has generated some interesting debate, both on the theological and philosophical implications of the decision and also on its more earthly technicalities.
Church of England rules gay men in civil partnerships can become bishops
What EXACTLY is it that they don’t like?
Two men loving each other?
As long as they good to each other what difference does their sex make?
Is it the lovemaking ACT or the love itself?
Two men bumming each other?
So is it realy the act of “up the bum” that they don’t like? Hetero couples do this now – if a hetero couple try to get married or become bishops, Should the church prevent such sinful behaviour?
Sucking dick – ditto if a hetero girl does this should she be forbidden from marrying?
The church really does know how to make itself look like a bunch of bigoted outdated fools.
‘Hetero couples do this now…’
What is this “now”?
Yes, I think it’s mainly the ‘up the bum’.
Why are these clueless misogynistic homophobes still in control of our schools and sitting unelected in the House of Lords? On the other hand, I welcome this sort of idiocy if it hastens their richly-deserved descent into oblivion.
A bit harsh
I have decided to make no comment as this is just too idiotic and beyond parody
Are they allowed to masturbate?
According to them, nobody is.
The Daily Mail
Church of England ends ban on gay clergy in civil partnerships becoming bishops (but they must remain celibate)
The great thing about the Daily Mail comments system is that it not only offers insight into the people who read the paper, but also the people who read the comments. Its up-down voting system often reveals interesting trends in the opinions of the larger readership. In this case, it meant slamming anything with a shade of common sense or Christian charity with negative votes and approving heartily of any knee-jerk homophobia and/or church-bashing.
They too have a right to live in peace, next step women bishops within the C of E and Rome !! Onward and onward Christain soldiers………together in PEACE !!!!
– John Hughes, elche, 4/1/2013 20:01
Peace! Onward!… Rating: -57
I for one am 100% in favour of gay/same sex marriage and i like that this government are finally giving homosexuals the same rights as straight people However i also believe that churches should not be forced to go against their beliefs no matter of personal opinion (i think their beliefs are misguided but thats my opinion and ONE of the reasons i dont follow religions!) and i get confused that anyone would want to get married somewhere where their sexuality is not only denied but also were they are demonised just for being what they are! (Its not a choice to be gay no more than it is to be straight!)
– steve, liverpool merseyside, 4/1/2013 19:33
A very balanced and reasonable position, whatever his personal beliefs… Rating: -48. Oh.
I would have no problem with any gay Bishop. All I require of him is that he is a good man. Whom he loves, at a personal level is not my business. Christ’s injunction to us, that we should love one another, does not seem to be evident in most of the posts here. No very Christian, are you?
– bar, notts, 5/1/2013 10:23
Yes, just a good man, his personal life is not your business. Very reasonable… Rating: -7
Can’t quite understand why they enter the ‘Church’ when the Bible categorically forbids it. Surely this is the basic guide book given by God. Why not enter another type of caring ‘profession’ where it is well accepted…
– Maureen, Cardiff, 4/1/2013 22:23
Caring ‘profession’? Rating: +226
Like most large British institutions the university inspired cultural Marxists started to infiltrate the CE in the 60’s and have been white anteing the church since to its final state we find it today a rotting corps which stands for nothing,
– Adelaide hillman, Adelaide, 5/1/2013 8:43
What. Rating: +78
hang on…isn’t Christianity about non judgemental, acceptance of all of Gods Children? Yet instead of practicing this, the majority of you are simply bashing someone’s ability or right to be firstly religious and secondly an authority figure in the Church…thats blatant hypocrisy and completely ‘un Christian-like’…
– Charlotte, London, 5/1/2013 7:37
Hang on… I think you’re right, this sounds reasonable… Rating: -12. Oh.
A Gay Christian is an oxymoron. Just why are the Bishops wondering why the people are turning their backs on the C of E? This makes a mockery of the teachings and beliefs of Christians and any one that says otherwise is a hypocrite. You cannot be a Homosexual and a proper, believing, full on Christian, Jew, Islamist, Hindu, Buddhist, Sikh or any other major religion I know of… You just cannot…. End of story. If you wish to go off and make up a new sect or faith then go away and do it. Don’t thrust your bigotry towards people of faith down their throats.
– NDT, Sydney expat, 4/1/2013 22:47
Bloody gays, thrusting their throbbing bigotry down our moist quivering throats… Rating: +8
I am puzzled, what happens to gay clergy living with a partner who do not wish to become Bishops? Is it within Church law for them and their partner to not be celibate and play hanky panky with one another?
– GEF, Belfast, 4/1/2013 22:12
I, too, am puzzled. Rating: +127
So, Its not ok to have women Bishops in the Church of England but it is acceptable to become a Bishop if you are a homosexual! I dont want to be registered as a believer of this sick and twisted brand of religion. So I shall now consider where else to be buried, and act upon it.
– greyontop, Buckingham, United Kingdom, 4/1/2013 20:19
Please do act upon it, godspeed! Rating: +4
This is just too much information!!!
– Bizy Girl, Basingstoke, United Kingdom, 4/1/2013 20:15
Yes, it probably is. Rating: -36
Gay bishops allowed – but they can’t have sex
[Someone suggests that God, too, has a penis]
If God has a car; and he suggests a few rules on how to drive it; do you suppose he rams into little kids crossing the road? Or do you think he advises us not to do that either? Dorks dumbkopfs.
Wha… oh ok, I get it.
Why did your god create the orgasm if sex is not also for enjoyment?
But that’s just it; it is for enjoyment.
Anal sex isn’t, since the one important factor missing is lubrication.
Jesus surrounded himself with men, he was meek, and mild.
I’m prepared to allow openly Christian people to hold office in Society but they must not practise their foul and unnatural bigotry.
Har har. Smartarse.